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401. Ronski - Sep. 2, 1998 - 2:39 PM PT

They give good ghee.

402. arkymalarky - Sep. 2, 1998 - 4:22 PM PT
This may have been mentioned here before, but what's the best way to deal with ants in the house? I thought we'd taken care of them, but they're back. Also, I asked this awhile back and never got an answer so I assume no one here knows, but I'll give it one more shot. Does anyone know of a good mail-order company for crochet and knitting yarn, especially natural fibers? In fact I'd be interested in any good craft supply catalogues.

403. rickc2000 - Sep. 2, 1998 - 4:27 PM PT
arky; When we had a bad ant problem this past winter we put down Ant Traps. They a small round (or square) things about 2 inches in diameter 1/2 inch ish high. The ants go in and they are dead. We put them where ever we see the little darlings, even in the cupboards.

A friend recommends squiching them but we can't be vigilant 24/7.

The ant traps worked very well and do not seem to have any negative side (or health) effects.

404. arkymalarky - Sep. 2, 1998 - 4:40 PM PT
Thanks, Rick! I'll try it. These are those little bitty "sugar" ants and it's hard to see them before they're just everywhere.

405. chloel - Sep. 2, 1998 - 5:23 PM PT
Ronski

That's promising. My brother is allergic to cow's milk, and really misses cream, and we had heard that yaks gave a lot of cream.

I just found out that yaks crossbreed with cattle, though, so now I worry that my bro. would be allergic to yak milk too. Bother.

406. Ronski - Sep. 3, 1998 - 11:07 AM PT


chloel,

Yes, I'd be concerned that yaks are too similar to cows to make much of a difference. What about goats?

407. chloel - Sep. 3, 1998 - 11:29 AM PT
None of the goats we know give high-fat milk, and what fat there is doesn't separate the way cow's milk does; so, no cream, no butter. Maybe we should look at mountain-bred goats, assuming that animals in high cold places benefit by giving their young fatty milk. (Fencing in mountain goats sounds really hard, though!)

I suppose one of the problems is that we don't actually know what it is in cow's milk that makes him ill; it's not the standard digestive trouble, he gets lethargic and depressed. Yak-keeping was originally a joke, until we found that there are a few herds in B.C. and Montana.

408. rickc2000 - Sep. 3, 1998 - 12:00 PM PT
chloel; Have you tryed sheeps milk? I don't know if it will make butter but it makes great cheese.

409. chloel - Sep. 3, 1998 - 12:42 PM PT
rickc2000; Again, not enough separable cream to notice, although maybe we should be looking for odd breeds - maybe the common sheep are equivalent to shorthorns, not Guernseys...

410. AzureNW - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:02 PM PT

I've gotten pretty used to soy products as an occasional dairy substitute. I don't think there is anything made of soy that tastes like cream, though.

411. AzureNW - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:04 PM PT

Those who enjoy delicious foods should be sure to taste wild Alaskan salmon before it disappears forever. Wild salmon is a food so satisfying as to be a nearly transcendental experience, because of its unique and sublime flavor, and because of rush of wellbeing unleashed by eating such pure, quickly digested protein. As far as I'm concerned, wild salmon is the best food there is. Tearing into a late summer fillet like a Grizzly, I've wondered how a practically naked grilled salmon would compare to the complex and refined dishes fussed over by hotel chefs from around the world. How could any food possibly taste better? I don't believe it's possible. I like eat my salmon fairly naked, grilled, with grilled vegetables, including summer squashes and garlic, with olive oil and a few fresh herbs. No need to eat meat for days after.

412. Ronski - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:16 PM PT

chloel,

My sort of brother-in-law raises sheep in East Sussex (UK) to augment his winemaking. I will ask him whether he knows of breeds that make cream.

413. chloel - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:33 PM PT
'Course, some of us don't eat salmon while working to keep it from disappearing.

What a thing to say to one's students or grandchildren: 'Yep, salmon was great, I ate the eighth-to-last one. You shoulda been there.'

Thanks, Ronski. Does your s.o.b-i-l have his own wine-and-cheese parties?

414. AzureNW - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:40 PM PT

Salmon have to be eaten, chloel. They are an amazing food. If you don't eat them, they will just lay there, cooking themselves in the late summer sun, until something else eats them. Have some. And do tell your grandchildren how wonderful it tasted.

Restoring habitat is the key to restoring salmon runs. Overfishing has a very small impact on salmon runs compared to destrustion of habitat.

415. rickc2000 - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:50 PM PT
I vote for salmon too. It is great, particularly on the grill. I usually grill it "naked" as well though some times I baste it with a little olive oil and lime juice! And Azure is correct habitat destruction is the key to bringing back salmon.

Now swordfish is another story! Please Please Please!!! do not eat swordfish. The species has been so overfished that the vast majority of the catch is sexually immature. If you eat them before they geta chance to breed the species doesn't last long. We need to stop catching and eating them for several years to let the breeding stock rebuild (this form a person who considers swordfish to be one of the best tasting of fish)

416. chloel - Sep. 3, 1998 - 1:54 PM PT
If I were guaranteed that a salmon had been caught after its last possible breeding span, I might eat it, being weak. I'd rather quit draining the ecosystems until they revive - there are creatures there that need protein and can't eat lentils. I can eat lentils.

I don't know of an edible wild fish that isn't overfished; species that were trash fish a generation ago are getting overfished now. *Squid* are getting overfished, or at least are getting harder to catch, but they're not well-enough understood to be sure why.

417. Ronski - Sep. 3, 1998 - 2:06 PM PT

With squid, one possibility is that they are figuring out how to avoid capture; they're quite intelligent (another reason not to eat them, besides the fact that they taste like latex?).

418. rickc2000 - Sep. 3, 1998 - 2:12 PM PT
Ronski; "besides the fact that they taste like latex"

You must not have eaten it properly prepared. I do a great grilled stuffed squid. Melts in your mouth.

419. Ronski - Sep. 3, 1998 - 2:41 PM PT

rickc2000,

Thanks. I'll take your word for it. ;-)

420. chloel - Sep. 3, 1998 - 4:21 PM PT
Yes, squid are eerily bright; an acquaintance of mine gave up on keeping them in his cold-water aquarium because they kept unscrewing vent-covers, etc., and going through pipes they were not meant to pass; sometimes they got stuck in the pumps, sometimes they ate the collection in the next tank.

So *farmed* squid seem pretty unlikely, and I therefore try to refrain from eating them although I agree with rick about their possibilities. Sigh.

"Home, Garden, Livestock and the Wild Things outside the Fence."

421. ScottLoar - Sep. 3, 1998 - 10:40 PM PT
Yak are great tasting and I recommend them; my last taste of yak was at The Fort outside Denver. Squid (why farmed? there are billowing clouds of them in all major waters, and they do not seem to be endangered) are also excellent (especially when prepared by Oriental or Mediterranean cooks) yet avoided by many whom I suspect would oddly welcome "calamari". Like many ugly creatures octupus is loathed by many more yet when grilled then dipped in a balsamic vinegar, olive oil and soy sauce is simply good eating.

422. Fraaank9 - Sep. 4, 1998 - 3:24 AM PT
Arky:

A local TV Garden "expert" suggested this for getting rid of ants:

* Get an old plastic cup (You know,like the ones cottage cheese come in) and cut out a few holes around the base.

* Place a small amount of Boric acid and table syrup and seal it,so other little critters can't get to it and place it near a path.He suggests a nine to one ratio (Nine parts syrup;One part acid).

The goal is to get the boric acid to kill the queen ant,but a good friend says that that particular ratio is too strong.The worker ants will die off before they can get the acid to her.She suggests a less potent 20 to 1 ratio.It might take a litle longer,but it will get you results that way she says.

Good luck ! Sorry I can't help you on the yarn.

423. Philistine - Sep. 4, 1998 - 4:00 AM PT
Hooboy, what a week!

It all started with a brief, but energetic electrical storm last Sunday. The house caught a power surge, which interrupted the juice very briefly. On Monday, when I got home from work (about 9 pm), I stubbed by toe and went to the freezer to ice it down. No dice, no ice. The food was thawing out! The house was taking a long time to get cool, too (since we are often out of the house more than 12 hrs at a time, we turn the AC to a pretty warm temperature when we leave.) What it turned out happened, was the power surge blew the compressor on both the AC and refrigerator.

As many of you know, I live in Texas, and in Texas, it is HOT! Nighttime lows in the high 70's, that kind of thing. The property manager didn't want to drop the $1700 it would take to replace the central air unit, so when it got 'repaired' yesterday morning, it still didn't blow cold air. It will probably be Tuesday before we get a new AC box installed. The new fridge is being delivered today, far too late to have saved any food. And I haven't even gotten to the animal that crawled under the house to die at about the same time as the rest of the shit hit the fan...

424. Fraaank9 - Sep. 4, 1998 - 4:32 AM PT
Philistine:

We have only had about one week's worth of hot,humid weather and we in SoCal are ready to throw in the proverbial towel.I don't see how y'all in Texas could take it for over a month.Only last night,a bolt of lightning struck a huge tree a few blocks away and made kindling(sp?) out of it.
I'm having trouble going to sleep tonight because of all the humidity...It sucks!

Sorry to hear of the dead animal under the house...that oughta be fun getting to it,huh ?

425. AzureNW - Sep. 4, 1998 - 11:04 AM PT

Poor baked Philistine. It sounds so odd to hear you say you turn the AC to a pretty warm temperature before leaving. I've never lived in a place with air conditioning. The highest heat of summer indicator here is to be able to sleep with the windows open all night for a few weeks. You would probably get mouldy with all the rain here the rest of the year, though.

426. AzureNW - Sep. 4, 1998 - 11:36 AM PT

If I were articulate and had a lot of time to play, I could probably use the momentum I started with the introduction of salmon to introduce topics like the impact dams, runoff and contaminants have on salmon runs. I could bring up the issue of how much of their meager resources American Indian tribes are devoting to restoring the environment. Introducing environmental issues could bring Al Gore into the discussion. That would open an opportunity for me to promote one of my very favorite legislators, the governor of Washington, Gary Locke, and show what a perfect example alternative he would be to the governor of Arkansas as president of the US.

Oh well.

427. Philistine - Sep. 6, 1998 - 4:52 AM PT
Fraaank, AzureNW

The silver lining to the incredibly hot weather has been it only took about four days for whatever it was down there to dry out and stop stinking. The house was put together piecemeal, with the front resting on pier and beam and the back resting on a really, really messed up concrete foundation. I didn't go to look (I've been spending as much of my spare time as I can with friends and relatives), but judging by where the smell was strongest I'd say that whatever died, died in a crack in the concrete slab.

428. Msivorytower - Sep. 7, 1998 - 6:30 PM PT
Phil

That was some storm, I agree. Luckily the only thing that happened in my house was a loss of sound on my PC (haven't figured out how to fix it yet, but since I hate sound, I haven't got a lot of motivation). Your AC story is my nightmare, and I've had dead animals under the house before. All I can say is , "YUCK!!".

You can always come over here if you need to get cool. I admit to keeping the house at a constant 74 degrees.

429. Philistine - Sep. 7, 1998 - 9:35 PM PT
My keeping-cool strategy for the last week can be summed up in two words, Misty.

Backyard pool.

Ahhhhhh....

430. Philistine - Sep. 7, 1998 - 9:37 PM PT
Well, here's a few more that have helped.

"Stay at work" "friends and family" and lastly "beer run."

431. arkymalarky - Sep. 8, 1998 - 4:00 PM PT
Glad you've got some choices, Philistine. The summer before we moved into our new house we did w/o AC in a little box with a tin roof. It was a miserable summer.

Thanks for the ant tips Fraaaank and Rick. The little bait things have worked so far, and if they come back I'll try Frank's plan B1

432. bubbaette - Sep. 8, 1998 - 4:23 PM PT
Guys

We have knotty pine paneling in the den, and while I'm sure some folks would love it, it's too dark in there for my tastes. Is there some way to lighten the wood, other than painting over it?

433. rickc2000 - Sep. 8, 1998 - 4:34 PM PT
Pine is not a dark wood naturally. I suggest stripping off the old varnish and refinishing with a light varnish or a clear polyurethane finish. Bleaching is also an option is you like that look.

434. bubbaette - Sep. 8, 1998 - 4:40 PM PT
Rick

It's tounge in groove panelling. Is there an easy way to strip? With what you suggest and a skylight, I might be able to live in there.

435. rickc2000 - Sep. 8, 1998 - 4:56 PM PT
bubbaette; A hundred or so posts ago, in this thread, someone (I don't now recall who) had some good furniture stripping guidelined and suggestions. I recomend finding those posts and trying that approach. Keep the new finish light and you may not need the skylight (unless of course you want one anyway)

436. AzureNW - Sep. 8, 1998 - 5:24 PM PT

A kind of whitewashed finish that shows the grain of the wood is popular for woodwork in newer homes in this region of the US right now. The finish looks pretty good with a pastel pallette and more traditional styles of furnishings. It probably wouldn't do much for my sleek scandinavian and art deco furnishings.

We are planning to put in a "solar tube," a type of small, inexpensive and easy to install skylight that uses mirrors, to increase the light in a north facing hobby room. The solar tube thing looks pretty effective and is not much more obtrusive in the room than a light fixture. You can buy them at home improvement stores here, or contact the manufacturers through ads in home improvement magazines.

437. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 7:29 PM PT
Azure,

You like art deco? I knew I liked you deep down!!

438. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 7:58 PM PT
I agree that some freshly caught ocean and river fish are best eaten grilled with sea salt and lemon.


My favorite fish:

Ladyfish
Pomfret
Red Snapper
Sole
Sea Bass

439. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:29 PM PT
Salmon v. lentils.

Lentils? Why ever eat them? They at least explain Chloel's loose orifices.

The best preparation for salmon is à la japonaise: immerse it in salt for several days, then grill.

440. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:30 PM PT
¡ sturgeon tartare ! (with lard sauce)

441. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:32 PM PT
Lentils comprise 'dal'. My favorite food.


As for salmon, quite frankly I have never truly enjoyed the fish when it was not smoked.

442. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:33 PM PT
By the way, the salted salmon (shiojake) is best when the fillet is half-inch thick. It attains an unrivalled plebeian goodness. Best eaten with hot glutinous rice.

443. wabbit - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:34 PM PT
Salmon, baked slowly on a maple board, yummy.

444. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:36 PM PT
Smoked and cured salmon are also good, but only when expensive. Cheap varieties are particularly dreadful. I've never understood why New Yorkers eat it inside an unflavoured doughnut lathered with puddy.

445. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:37 PM PT
Lentils are for antivivisectionists, pacificists and communists.

446. phillipdavid - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:37 PM PT
Arky,

The ants are just looking for either food or water. The easiest and most humane way to keep ants out of your house is to just feed and water them outside. Give them a source of food outside in the yard somewhere, place a little peppermint oil or soap at the point of their entry to your house, and they will stay outside.

447. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:40 PM PT
Wow.

Can't you find one more category? I don't fit into any of those.

Start a new one.

448. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:41 PM PT
I've eaten salmon prepared in different ways, but I've only cared for the fish when smoked, cured, grilled à la japonaise, raw (sushi or sashimi), or in a cream sauce with linguini (or some such pseudo-italianated preparation). All other preparations I find indifferent. I did once have "salmon casserole", which though it was good featured no reminder of salmon.

449. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:45 PM PT
Pseuder,

You have not truly lived until you have eaten a whole pomfret.

450. phillipdavid - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:47 PM PT
I grew up eating too much salmon. They were everywhere! Every little stream and river was chock full of them and you could practically scoop them out of the water with your hands. I don't have much taste for salmon now. Funny, I still live in one of the premier salmon fishing sites in the world and never eat them.

I do like lentils -- but prefer garbanzo beans.

451. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:53 PM PT
I have had pomfret. It was good, but like many I couldn't tell the difference between it and dark turbot.

452. ScottLoar - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:55 PM PT
Pomfret is best enjoyed as commonly served in Chinese restaurants throughout Singapore and Malaysia: the pomfret is covered with very thinly sliced, curling scallions, then poached in a very light chicken stock suffused with pickled cabbage and some thin rice noodles. The pomfret in the poaching pan is delivered bubbling to the table. I have also had pomfret "dry pan-fried" but inferior to the poached.

453. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:55 PM PT
PD,

Is there an Indian restaurant near you?

If you agree to eat there, I will call them and possibly arrange a lentil-based terrific meal for you.

454. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:57 PM PT
I only like garbanzo beans in hummus. Other than that, ick. I like lentils, PD. Are you an antivivisectionist, a pacifist, or a communist?

(now make like Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda--"what was the one in the middle again?")

And I love salmon as close to its pure form as I can get it. I love it raw, smoked, or grilled. No sauces preferably. Or light ones.

455. ScottLoar - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:58 PM PT
Phillipdavid, that you live near one of the premier salmon sites yet disdain the taste is called j-a-d-e-d, too much of a good thing.

456. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 8:58 PM PT
BTW


I am fairly horrified at both of your impressions of the master fish, the pomfret.

457. ScottLoar - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:01 PM PT
Marjoribanks, review my message to you in International Affairs when you've the time as I do invite your comment and opinion.

458. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:02 PM PT
Re: chickpeas (I cannot be moved to write or utter term of "garbanzo beans").

I don't much care for vegan-grub, but if I had to eat legumes, it would be chickpeas. But I agree with Calgal: only hummus, which I much much prefer to eat it with nan than with pita.

459. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:03 PM PT
When I look at unmashed chickpeas, I imagine them to be the curiosa of an eccentric & savage culture fond of lemur testicles.

460. phillipdavid - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:05 PM PT
marjoribanks,

One of the highlights of my springtime visit to Seattle was a very good meal I enjoyed at an Indian restuaraunt. I got a little better treatnmment and food because I was dining with Irving. He spoke the language and put the fear of authority into the waitor.

I actually don't remember much about the food -- all my attention was on the fine company of friends around the table.

461. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:07 PM PT
Pseuder,

Your philistinism regarding lentils has been noted.


462. phillipdavid - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:10 PM PT
btw, marjori, both of the Indian restaruants in my last two cities have gone out of business, but thanks for the offer.

463. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:13 PM PT
PD,

I swear I am going to make you an indophile by any means necessary.

464. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:17 PM PT
Pseudo,

I love nan, but pita is my mopup of choice for hummus.

I emailed your description of unmashed chickpeas to my father, who for years has closed his eyes while he got the garbanzos in the blender for his classic hummus dip. He can't stand the sight of them, and I'm not much better.

Dead on, dude.

465. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:18 PM PT
CalGal,

Good call. I'm not a bean eater, but I like good hummus and have some in the fridge as we speak.

Arky,

If you have ants in your house, sprinkle baby powder in the carpet(not too much though). The scent will drive them out of the place. Also, if they are trailing up any walls, be sure and wash them with soap and water. It will confuse them, and again, they will leave. A friend found out about fireants the hard way when she accidentally left her dog's dry food canister slightly open in the pantry. Both suggestions here worked for her.

466. phillipdavid - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:18 PM PT
Hey, marjori, I keep looking in my mailbox and thinking of you.

Still enjoying Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan a whole bunch too! Just had it on last night. Still fresh, moving, and inspiring.

467. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:22 PM PT
Well, when I speak of "hummus", I need it inordinately drenched in olive oil, tahini, garlic and lemon. I want as much diguising of its base material as possible.

As for pita, one might as well just swallow unleavened sawdust bread.

468. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:23 PM PT
Pseudo,

I have lots of olive oil, tahini, garlic, lemon, and nan.


Come over.

469. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:24 PM PT
Oh, me too. I like tomatoes and parsley strewn on top as well.

Fresh pita bread is very good. Other than that, I'd go along with your description. We used to buy it fresh in Jedda and I was appalled the first time I had the packaged stuff over here. But some of the brands are better than others.

470. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:25 PM PT
PD,

It will happen. More NFAK will descend upon you as it will upon Philistine.

But when will we play basketball?

471. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:26 PM PT
469 is to Pseudo. I'm not seconding Jen's invitation--Jen, you bold girl!

472. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:32 PM PT
CalGal,

I'm running an experiment, sshhh!

473. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:40 PM PT
Experiment complete, I scared Pseudo away.

474. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:43 PM PT
Jeneratrix: you're pretty, but I disdain invitations which one knows are inevitably barren....

475. marjoribanks - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:51 PM PT
Pseuder,

You know, I actually partially blame you for this ridiculous jenerator/anw nonsense. You encourage it.

476. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:51 PM PT
I'm not barren, I'm perfectly healthy!

477. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:54 PM PT
Pseudo,

I flirt with you because it is fun. I do not think for one moment that any of it is really going somewhere. In other words, I do not go home and ponder "Does Pseudo really like me? Is this going to turn into a relationship?" Instead, I 'play' with you, and truth be told, I'd rather be on your good side.

:)

478. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 9:55 PM PT
Marjori,

"You know, I actually partially blame you for this ridiculous jenerator/anw nonsense. You encourage it."

Partially?

Please.

He not only encourages it, he loves it.

479. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 10:00 PM PT
Enough time has passed that Azure and I have an unspoken truce. But in all honesty, we never fought over you Pseudo. I wasn't trying to "get" you. Instead, she and I were fighting for different reasons. I assumed that you and her were just bro-sis friends as she intimated.

Anyway, I guess my hummus will be all for me.

480. Jenerator - Sep. 8, 1998 - 10:09 PM PT
Good night all. It's midnight and I have a lot to do tomorrow.

481. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 11:37 PM PT
Sigh.

482. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 11:40 PM PT
a baroque earnestness

483. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 11:41 PM PT
Entirely to blame.

484. CalGal - Sep. 8, 1998 - 11:41 PM PT
You realize she's going to come back and say, "I'm not baroque, I've got plenty of money!"

And it will be *your* fault.

485. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 11:54 PM PT
Well, all the same, the point was, I have no use for a pretty Thumper. After all, what's the difference between a pretty Thumper and an ugly non-Thumper? There is none.

486. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 8, 1998 - 11:55 PM PT
Garlicky hummus or not.

487. Fraaank9 - Sep. 9, 1998 - 12:48 AM PT
Jaysus! What it took to kick start this thread again ? A little hummus,fish,herbs,and a bit of flirting.

Go get em Pseudo !!! You ol'dog you.

488. CalGal - Sep. 9, 1998 - 12:48 AM PT
"After all, what's the difference between a pretty Thumper and an ugly non-Thumper? "

Well. Neither's getting the good stuff from PseudoErasmus.

I feel obligated to point out that Azure, if her picture be accurate, is a pretty non-Thumper.

Brave boy.

489. CalGal - Sep. 9, 1998 - 12:49 AM PT
But then, I betcha she's a lentil-lover.

490. Fraaank9 - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:10 AM PT
Is a Thumper a plant ? Just wondering given the thread and all...He-he-he!

491. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 8:46 AM PT
Pseudo,

You made it painfully clear that it wouldn't work between us.:(


492. AzureNW - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:22 PM PT

PseudoErasmus -

Re: Message #485

If this refers to me, I'm sorry if you think I am ugly, but I'm not too surprised. Having attention constantly drawn to your own physical beauty probably makes you very critical in your judgment of what is pretty enough. I've always thought of myself as a physically ugly person and I struggle constantly to maintain and improve my appearance. I will have spent over $20K on cosmetic surgery alone by my 40th birthday.

Please make an effort to say anything you mean for me to understand in as straightforward a way as you can, as I always have with you.

493. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:28 PM PT
I don't think he was talking to you Azure, I think he was just saying that my appearance is nullified because of my faith. I seriously doubt that he all of a sudden finds you unattractive.

494. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:33 PM PT
CalGal,

There is a certain chemistry or je ne sais quoi between you and Pseudo. You fight like lovers, why not give it a try? He did afterall share with me a love letter written entirely in Latin about you!

495. Bubbaette - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:37 PM PT
Awright folks. This aint the lonely hearts club. Break it up and take it to the social thread.

496. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:48 PM PT
I think both Jeneratrix and AzureNW are scrumptious & eminently worthy of casual delectation. It's just that one is a Thumper, therefore functionally ugly; and the other is insane, which of course can be intriguing but is also highly dangerous.

497. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:50 PM PT
"But I love God more."

-- Jeneratrix, upon refusing a suitor outside her gates.

498. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:51 PM PT
Pseudo,

I promise to need beat you over the head with my Bible as long as you do not drone on about cyclical currency trends!:)

499. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:52 PM PT
hahahahahah

need beat = NOT beat

(Freudian slip there)

500. Bubbaette - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:53 PM PT
PE

she could also be using that as a religious variety of "but I have to wash my hair tonight". Might depend on the suitor.




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